Interviewers: Cameron Edney & Shayne
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Canadian extreme metallers Cryptopsy have
been playing to sold-out crowds across the globe for eighteen years
now, cooking up their own brand of brutal metal to a legion of fans.
The release of their second full length, now classic ‘None So
Vile’ album back in 1996 played a large part in Cryptopsy taking
a top seat on the extreme metal scene. Not only were they making waves
in Canada, now people all over the world were sitting up and taking
notice. There is no doubt that front man Lord Worm’s onstage
antics also helped Cryptopsy get noticed by fans and critics alike
in those early days. Throughout the years the band has undergone a
series of line-up changes which included the departure of front-man
Lord Worm, who had taken an eleven year absence and concentrated on
his alternate career as an English teacher. Now back with the band
Lord Worm is sounding better then ever and for most of us we are happy
to see him back fronting Cryptopsy. In May of this year for the very
first time, Cryptopsy played a series of sold-out shows for Australian
audiences which were astonishing to say the least. I was fortunate
enough to catch up with the band before and after the show and pulled
front-man Lord Worm aside to answer some questions for all of our
readers. Despite all the rumors that have been said about Lord Worm
over the years, he is a very down to earth gentleman, who gracefully
answered everything that we threw at him. We spoke about his alternate
career, those crazy on-stage antics, the rumors , new material the
guys are working on and even managed to get a world exclusive. This
is one interview you don’t want to miss.
Metal Fanatix: Hey guys, welcome to
Sydney. When did you get in?
Lord Worm: We got in yesterday your
time, today our time! Today’s tomorrow it’s great [laughs]
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs] oh yeah it gets
nice and confusing! You guys have a very busy schedule; while you’re
here will you have time to see any of the sights?
Lord Worm: Well we did yesterday actually,
we seen the bridge and the opera house, walked around, it was great.
I went and touched the opera house so I can say my index [finger]
was here. We will get a chance to see as much as we can while we’re
here. We actually have a day off in Perth before the show.
Metal Fanatix: Mate; congratulations
on the latest album ‘Once Was Not’ you guys have been
getting rave reviews, were you happy with the outcome?
Lord Worm: Pretty much, were happiest
when people like what we do let’s face it. When we put out crap
it’s not that much fun, we’re really looking forward to
putting out the next one, we’re workin' on new material right
Metal Fanatix: Awesome, were you involved
with the writing process for the new album?
Lord Worm: Yep 100%
Metal Fanatix: How long after you came
back did you start writing?
Lord Worm: Oh I started writing immediately.
The material was pre-written and pre-arranged. They gave me an instrumental
cd and told me to put down some lyrics. It took me longer to get my
throat back though after an eleven year absence and cause we continued
to have financial problems between us and the label, what we basically
have to do is make our own money and the best way to do that is gig
around. So, before our now ex-guitarist Jon Levasseur left had a good
idea as well, we never really toured for the now classic album ‘none
so vile’ we did an none so vile tour in 2004 -05 and people
went ape shit for it so that’s why we financed this album. The
material was actually written in early 2001 it took a bunch of line-up
changes including two singer changes in that time to finally get a
stable line-up to finish the fucker.
Metal Fanatix: How hard is it to get
the band motivated to go into the studio after taking so much time
off from recording?
Lord Worm: Part of it was gigging around
and playing meaningful live shows, identifiable early Cryptopsy engendered
an identity of its own and then changed and then re-changed but for
members that have been around from the beginning all of a sudden you
realize that no we were right the first time, it feels comfortable.
I’m me, this is my skin, and I feel good, let’s do it.
Metal Fanatix: Was there a new energy
in within the band when you come back?
Lord Worm: There was an upsurge in the
energy level despite the fact that I was there [laughs].
Metal Fanatix: Was it the same with
the fans; were they as excited with the news?
Lord Worm: For the most part, there
is the contingent of worm haters and I respect them, they have an
opinion and a reason for their opinion because of that amazing first
effort to change part of my delivery to the Mike DiSalvo way of doing
things on the new album where there’s a greater clarity with
my delivery, this music is a combination of melody and rhythm and
my style is pure melody and without a doubt pure rhythm I try to incorporate
some of his rhythm in my clearer delivery to give the DiSalvo fans
something less to bitch about, so it doesn’t have to be just
worm, so that’s what I tried to incorporate on this album here.
Metal Fanatix: While you were off you
were teaching English I believe
Lord Worm: Still am!
Metal Fanatix: Oh really!
Lord Worm: I’m an English teacher,
that’s what I do. I’m not gonna be here in Cryptopsy all
my life, I’m going on forty one here and I’m not gonna
be doin' it when I’m forty five my body can’t take it.
Metal Fanatix: Lord what are you saying?
Does this mean four years from now Cryptopsy will be no more?
Lord Worm: No, I will be no more [laughs].
What Cryptopsy does is up to them but I’ll be no more. But teaching
is a career that I can keep until I retire or die [laughs].
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs] What do your
students think about your profession as the front-man for Cryptopsy?
Lord Worm: They don’t know, and
that’s why I kept the worm moniker not only for myself and family
but for them too. The guy onstage and the guy off stage are two very
different people. For the sake of my students I’ve kept the
moniker so that they don’t associate me with music, but this
way they associate me with the guy who’s teaching them, this
is how it’s done, this is what you have to know, this is why
you have to know it, this is your homework. If they are focusing on
my alternate career then they’re not learning anything.
Metal Fanatix: That’s a good point.
Going backwards for a moment you said you guys are writing at the
moment while touring, can you give us any working titles you may have
at the moment, tell us about the tracks?
Lord Worm: It will have to be different
from the last album although it will be in the same vein. It’
going to be another concept album another very general concept rather
then a story book concept like Pink Floyd’s The Wall which is
not really a story but, I like the idea of taking things that are
related to one an other lumping them all into a ball and give them
a linier progression which is what we did ‘once was not’
and it’s what we’ll do with ‘The Book of Suffering’.
Metal Fanatix: How about your schedule
with touring, when will you be putting time aside to enter the studio
and get the recording done & the production. Is there a date.
Lord Worm: Happily we don’t have
to worry about that. Our newest guitarist and hopefully permanent
member has his own studio. He wants us and we want him; it looks promising.
He has recorded some bands out of Québec and he continues to
perfect his craft so we’re just gonna do it with him.
Metal Fanatix: So he’s still not
a full time member, no talks have been held?
Lord Worm: Oh he’s going to be,
we just have to finish this tour.
Metal Fanatix: And see if he survives
Lord Worm: Oh he will! He’s young
enough, hungry enough and energetic enough, he’s sleeping back
there though [laughs]. Despite that though, he will become the newest
member of Cryptopsy when he has recorded with us. When his name and
face is associated with an entire album, these are all cover tunes
Metal Fanatix: Are you guys filming
any of the shows on this tour and can we expect to see something released
later in the year or early next year?
Lord Worm: Not with this tour although
it would had been a good idea, we’ve done so much filming in
the past couple of years and very little of it been used. A lot of
the footage was shot for Flo’s drum DVD. One show that was filmed
in Montréal, it looked fantastic lacked sound. It’s not
1921 it’s not a silent film it’s music. You’re expected
to hear something [laughs]. It was the soundman’s fault he was
on all kinds of ecstasy and forgot to plug in the bloody console.
So we’ve got this great live show but you just don’t hear
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs].
Lord Worm: But we do have an official
DVD planned it’s going to be a double filled with an awful lot
of extras, hours and hours of stuff.
Metal Fanatix: Mate, what goals have
you set for yourself these days when you look back on the history
you guys have created?
Lord Worm: I lived through it and now
I’m living through it some more
Metal Fanatix: Do you enjoy the traveling?
Lord Worm: The act of being on a moving
vehicle no, but when we have actually landed someplace and can walk
around, see things eat some food and talk to people yes that part’s
great. This being our first time down here so far it’s been
Metal Fanatix: You guys were actually
supposed to play here a couple of years back at a festival in Melbourne!
Lord Worm: I remember hearing something
about that and even before that back in 2002 we were supposed to come
down here for a tour with Sodom.
Metal Fanatix: Oh really wow, I didn’t
know that! Do you feel that you guys have played a large role in influencing
many of today’s metal bands?
Lord Worm: This is what we here, but
it’s nothing that we set out to do. We just do hat we do and
If people are influenced by that I’m sorry. [Laughs]
Metal Fanatix: Laughs, ok mate let’s
talk about the worms. Over in the states and Canada you are very well
known for one particular part of your show where you go off to the
side of the stage with audience members and munch on some worms, tell
us originally where did the whole idea of that come from?
Lord Worm: It came from founding member
Steve Thibault who’s on the demo and is on the first album and
contributed 50% of the music on the now classic none so vile. Steve
came up with that idea when we were the direct support for Suffocation
the very first time that they came to Canada. Back when no one had
ever heard of anything like Suffocation and the fact that we got picked
out of everyone in Montreal we knew that all these people were going
to see us and we had to do something to be remembered. Steve turned
around and said well you’ve got the name, why don’t you
eat worms onstage. And I thought about it and said “alright
I can do that but let’s add a new dimension, let’s share”.
It was Steve’s idea and all it was for was to get attention
because we were opening for Suffocation and that was a big deal. Unfortunately
it worked and I’m still doin' it [laughs].
Metal Fanatix: [laughs] how does it
work with the fans though, I can see where fans love a band so much
that they will do all kinds of outrageous things to get close to a
band are they fucking seriously getting out of the audience to feast
on handfuls of worms?
Lord Worm: Yes they are. There are right
up front with their mouths open like baby birds and there are just
as many girls as guys that do it.
Metal Fanatix: Wow really.
Lord Worm: When guys do it there all
aggressive and intense about it and when the girls do it, it’s
like love in their eyes and it’s great. Eric [Langlois] our
bassist, it’s his favorite part of the show seeing the girls
eating the worms; he’s like “look at that mouth”!
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs]
Lord Worm: His second favorite part
is when he sees their faces and he realizes“oh you chewed that
didn’t ya”? “You didn’t swallow that that
Metal Fanatix: Oh that’s too much
[laughs] now I notice you have a couple of containers next to you
there. Will we get to witness the act tonight?
Lord Worm: Unfortunately no, these ones
are alive and too small & the other container contains dead worms
that are also too small. When I am back here [Lord walks down the
corridor] and I hold up one of those worms you would never see it
out in the audience. From back here all you can see is a bunch of
fingers. Fingers mean nothing, worms mean something. You’re
just not going to see these [takes the lid off the container to show
us the size of the worms].
Metal Fanatix: Oh yeah no chance, oh
dude that’s disappointing.
Lord Worm: It’s ok; we’ve
got five more shows, we’ll make up for it.
Metal Fanatix: What’s the craziest
rumor you’ve ever heard about yourself and or the band?
Lord Worm: The band, very few rumors.
We hear opinions certainly rumors., yeah they tend to concern me.
I'm pretty rumorable I guess. I have heard that I am a pedophile,
that I inject my worms with heroin, I don’t even know what heroin
looks like! There are all kinds of things.
Metal Fanatix: What does your family
think about what you do, I mean the worms especially when you hear
rumors. such as those that you just mentioned?
Lord Worm: They don’t know about
it. My family knows that I’m in the band Cryptopsy, that I use
the lord worm moniker onstage and that it’s metal. That’s
as much as they wanna know. It’s not there thing and I can totally
respect that. But my family don’t know about the worms and they
certainly don’t know about the rumors. Rumors. are just advertising!
That’s all that is. Its word of mouth that keeps the name going
and people say the name and others hear you say the name and maybe
that will be influential so I don’t mind the rumors. The young
lady that I am seeing right now, the minute people saw us in the same
room touching each other the rumors. started to fly. “Oh they
must have sex with worms”.
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs]
Lord Worm: Don’t you people have
a life? Leave this poor girl alone.
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs] Over the years
you have shared the stage with so many great bands. Who have you enjoyed
touring with the most and could you share a funny road story with
us from the tour?
Lord Worm: Aborted of Belgium, fabulous
people on our North American tour with label mates and well our mates
anyway Despised Icon and the great Suffocation a nice little roving
tour there four bands and a caravan. Somewhere out in Western Canada,
the whole tour was an RV tour with recreational vehicles were dragging
trailers with all our equipment and we had to sleep in bunks basically
cause we couldn’t get a tour bus. This was around the time of
hurricane Katrina busses and vans were all going down to the hurricane
victims as part of the hurricane disaster relief program so when your
in a RV you have to find some place to park to spend the night if
you’re not playing too far, if you’re only playing 2 –
3 hours away. this is was what we were doing on this particular tour.
We pulled into this truck stop/gas station and sometime early in the
morning you wake to the sound of cows. Yeah they sound like cows but
they sound like the south park version of cows [laughs] we were saying
to ourselves “that’s fucking Aborted”! Only they
would get up early in the morning to moo at us
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs]
Lord Worm: So finally our bassist Eric
lost his cool and went storming outside and came face to face with
a truck full of cows.
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs]
Lord Worm: And so later we told Aborted
all about how we blamed them for cows being present, they took it
very graciously, we all drank and a good time was had by all.
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs] When the time
comes to work out the set list, do you find it hard to choose the
right songs, I mean there will always be fans who want to hear the
old stuff and the occasional obscure song and of course you have to
play some new tracks. Do you find it hard to make a set that is for
fans of all eras?
Lord Worm: For instance the set for
Australia which is twelve very carefully selected songs from every
album just in case, cause everyone’s got their favorite album
right? And we don’t want to piss anyone off. And the only albums
that will get a little more played will be ‘none so vile’
and the new one, let’s face it you’ve got to promote the
Metal Fanatix: What’s the most
ridiculous thing you have ever asked for on a tour rider?
Lord Worm: Ya know what this is going
to sound silly, but we are so very humble. We don’t want to
ask for anything crazy pretentious and stupid. It’s nice to
know that we don’t have to pay for our supper, we ask for it
and we get it. It’s nice to know that there are towels provided
for the guys to wipe their face during the show. I don’t use
them but the other guys do and it’s just nice to know that these
things are there for us. We don’t ask for anything to extravagant,
we don’t want to abuse the promoters, we want to be welcome.
Metal Fanatix: Do you feel that you
need to go out and hit the road with two or three other major acts
these days to make money as opposed to hitting the road with a couple
of up and coming bands?
Lord Worm: Asking me that questions
you’ll probably get an answer that doesn’t answer your
question at all. We’re at a stage now where we don’t have
to tour with anyone. We can go on the road all by ourselves as we’re
doing now and will do across Canada in the fall in October. Back in
February we had an interesting line-up across Europe and will have
two of the five bands that we played with touring behind us when we
go back out in August. We’re going back out with Aborted and
Vesania from Poland. We don’t need them, they don’t need
us. It’s just fun to tour with them. No one at this point needs
anyone it can be done if you have a following and in order to have
a following you need to write quality material and promote it. Too
few bands write quality material. It’s fun to offer the fans
something so overblown that they can’t refuse.
Metal Fanatix: How do you keep your
voice in such a good shape, it’s one thing to sing your standard
metal but doing such extreme metal it must be very hard to keep it
in tip top shape!
Lord Worm: It’s not something
that I do. It’s a series of events that I don’t do. Just
tonight because we haven’t practiced or done anything in a week
we all had to get our chops back, cause it’s too easy to rust.
So tonight we did the two song sound check instead of a one song sound
check. Some nights we don’t even do a sound check. No alcohol
before the show and that’s a minimum three hours. Milk products
minimum eight hours before the show. I don’t want that screwing
up my vocals. You need to gak and milk products cheese, butter whatever
it is will eliminate gak and then it’s just dry. Metal’s
not dry, it’s juicy, it’s got puss behind it.
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs]
Lord Worm: Something else that’s
good is lemon tea and or ice tea with honey just because it feels
good. Room temperature water, just one bottle, the perfect lubricant!
If you drink too much that dehydrates you too cause your body doesn’t
know how to deal with it.
Metal Fanatix: I have always heard how
fantastic the Canadian metal scene is and yet so many bands are constantly
overshadowed by those that come from the united states, tell us about
some of the bands we should be checking out from your neck of the
Lord Worm: Oh there are a lot of them.
You’ve probably heard a lot of them. Voivod of course, rush,
earlier I mentioned Despised Icon they are a great band. Neuraxis,
even older bands like Razor, Annihilator, Exciter, and Anvil. There’s
a whole bunch let’s face it and most of them come from Quebec.
Don’t know why, that’s just the way it happens.
Metal Fanatix: I recently read an article
and I’m not too sure what one of you guys had said it but there
was a quote that said something like Americans were uneducated when
it comes to the way Canadian’s live and the Canadian way of
life. It comes across to me like you guys were saying that Americans
were stupid. I would imagine that when American fans read the article
you guys are not going to come off looking too good. How do you rectify
yourselves after comments like that?
Lord Worm: No, that would not come from
Cryptopsy, that’s either a misquote or slander. We would never
say something like that.
Metal Fanatix: I wish I had bought the
article in with me for you to see. As I was saying when American fans
get a hold of the magazine where this quote is written, it will only
take one fan to read into the quote in a negative way and that causes
all kinds of problems for you guys.
Lord Worm: If something like that was
actually printed with our name behind it, it looks like we have got
some damage control here, if that’s the message that’s
being sent. We’d never say anything like that, god we don’t
even think that. We live differently of course, but the metal scene
is the metal scene no matter where you go on earth.
Metal Fanatix: Mate what would you say
have been your greatest achievements to date?
Lord Worm: Getting out here to Australia
is one of them absolutely no question. It’s a fabulous achievement
for us finally. Getting over to Japan was pretty cool to and doing
some of the major festivals like Wacken. This is all pre-worm all
between worms as I like to say [laughs]. Making it into the metal
encyclopedia was cool.
Metal Fanatix: What advice do you have
for those who are trying to break into the business?
Lord Worm: Don’t go there, actually
do go there but what I’d have to say would disappoint a lot
of people and that’s the trouble with my advice, it’s
negative. Don’t take it too seriously chances are very good
that you are not going to make a living out of it. Don’t even
try. I hope that whoever you are, you meet with all the success that
you want but don’t expect it. Anything good that comes your
way you have to make happen. Very few good things will reign down
on you just because. Make things happen don’t just sit back
and think that your shit don’t stink, too many musicians out
there will do something on the guitar neck and say well I just created
something. I create something every time I take a dump. It stinks
I wipe my ass and I flush then I forget about it. Just because you
make something doesn’t make it good. Don’t publish everything
you make not that many people are interested really! And lets face
it a lot of albums most albums are collections of songs some of which
become popular most of which are not forgettable but there not the
popular ones. Not to say that they a fillers but not everything we
create is magical and you have to get used to that idea. Don’t
work yourself up into a disappointment cause then it really sucks.
Metal Fanatix: What’s the one
band that you never want to hear again and why?
Lord Worm: Yeah, that means bad mouthing
someone and you don’t wanna do that in any genre. This is not
to play politics, I’ll respect any performer who gets out there
and means what they do. Not to make money, they’ve got a creative
mindset and they just like to do that, they like to show people the
neat things that they can do, that’s cool. There are a lot of
bands and performers that I don’t enjoy but naming them isn’t
going to help me and it isn’t going to hinder them. But there
are certain musical styles that you could gently phase out of existence
and I wouldn’t complain [laughs].
Metal Fanatix: [Laughs] Mate I hate
this fucking rap, hip-hop shit.
Lord Worm: Thank you for reading my
mind. It could leave and I wouldn’t miss it.
Metal Fanatix: Since when did someone
scratching records become a form of music.
Lord Worm: Yeah you can make interesting
rhythms, got it. Spoken word can sound really cool, got it! Next!
There are exceptions to that rule. I mean if you’re calling
Cypress Hill hip-hop then there are exceptions. I love them, I adore
Metal Fanatix: Mate I really wanna thank
you for your time tonight. I won’t bother you with anymore questions
[laughs]. I will let you go and grab dinner and rest up before the
show. Again it’s great to see you guys finally in Australia.
Do you have any final words for our readers?
Lord Worm: So far so great. Thank you
for being so accommodating and thank you for having us over for these
shows. We’re gonna put out the best shows possible, and hammer
as hard as possible every night that we’re in Australia.
Cryptopsy’s Latest Album ‘Once
Was Not’ Is Out Now. Grab Your Copy Where All Great Metal Albums
For All The Latest News and Tour Dates Check Out The Following Websites:
- Official Cryptopsy Site
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Make Sure You Catch Cryptopsy Out On The Road
Ripping It Up At The Following Venues:
Wed 07/19/06 Philadelphia, PA First Unitarian Church
Thu 07/20/06 Springfield, VA Jaxx
Fri 07/21/06 Poughkeepsie, NY The Loft
Sat 07/22/06 Latham, NY Saratoga Winners
Sun 07/23/06 New York, NY B.B. King's Blues Club
Mon 07/24/06 Hartford, CT Webster Theatre / Underground
Fri 09/29/06 Saint John, NB Nep-Tunes
Sat 09/30/06 Halifax, NS TBA
Mon 10/02/06 Quebec City, QC Imperial
Tue 10/03/06 Montreal, QC Le Medley
Wed 10/04/06 Ottawa, ON Mavericks
Thu 10/05/06 Hamilton, ON Absinthe
Fri 10/06/06 Rouyn-Noranda, QC Petit Theatre
Sat 10/07/06 Toronto, ON Opera House
Sun 10/08/06 London, ON The Embassy
Mon 10/09/06 Sudbury, ON Jubilee Centre
Wed 10/11/06 Thunder Bay, ON Kilroys
Thu 10/12/06 Winnipeg, MB Royal Albert Hotel
Fri 10/13/06 Regina, SK The Exchange
Sat 10/14/06 Edmonton, AB Mead Hall
Mon 10/16/06 Victoria, BC Sugar Nightclub
Tue 10/17/06 Vancouver, BC Columbia Hotel
Thu 10/19/06 Calgary, AB Stetson's
Sat 10/21/06 Columbia Heights, MN Star Central
Sun 10/22/06 Mokena, IL Pearl Room
Mon 10/23/06 Cleveland, OH Peabody's Down Under
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